Nathan, dear boy, I love you – honest I do.
I buy your products and visit your blog often but a recent post of yours got my hackles up. In your post of Feb 09 “Where 99% of Bloggers Go Wrong” you pulled no punches and pretty much told those of us who are blogging about blogging to pack it up. The topic has been done to death and extremely well by uber bloggers who cut their chops on this subject and have entrenched themselves as experts for life. They hold top positions and rankings with all the major search engines for just about every keyword associated with earning an online income and its not likely that any new blogger can add value or anything new to that which has already been written about in every which way except Sunday.
The “A” Listers have got it in spades and who are we to think that our humble efforts would ever see the light of day or receive the blessings of Google and rub shoulder with the likes of Darren Rowse , Yaro Starak or John Chow – just to name a few.
Whew! Nathan, you might be right.
That’s a lot of humble pie to eat.
But not so fast my boy. At the risk of offending someone I admire – yes, you Nathan here are my two cents worth, a retort if you will:
I am a “Z”Lister – no, you know what, make that a “Y” Lister (recently promoted myself). I am a shameless hussy climbing the ladder to success and I notice that there are other aspiring bloggers blogging on blogging who are riders on the up escalator ahead of me. I notice that they have good rankings of PR3 & PR4, and even PR5 with Alexa’s below the 100K mark. That escalator is pretty crowded but my faves are:
Glen Alsopp of Viper Chill
Dave Doolin of Website in a Weekend
Gabe Young of Free Blog Help
Pat Flynn of Smart Passive Income
Caroline Middlebrook of Caroline Middlebrook
There are plenty more and they all provide some valuable info. Granted some of the above are not exactly wet behind the ears when it comes to internet marketing, and they brandish some sharp cyber smarts, but for all intents and purposes their blogs on blogging are.
I have learned a lot from these potential usurpers to the number one spot which is not to say that I have not learned from the current reigning kings. But here are the reasons I like to visit the “new” blogs:
- Inspiring.
I can relate to these dudes. Yes, they are ahead of me but not so far that I need to genuflect at the altar of their blog. If they can be where they are in less than 2 years, and in Gabe’s case less than half a year, glory be. - Timely Information.
Yes. I can visit the uber bloggers blogs and go through their archives for content that is relevant to where I currently am in my blogging career. But quite honestly, that content is somewhat wilted by now. I realize and recognize that the basic info hasn’t changed, but I like the fresh approach that the new lot is bringing to the make money online market. They are not so far ahead that I have to dig into back issues to understand what they are talking about. - Fresh Perspective
Did I mention fresh approach? No matter how grand the symphony a young conductor can infuse it with a new richness, a new energy, show a side that the audience may not have heard in quite that way before. I also think of the new covers being recorded by no-name artists of the Beattles classics – and you know what? Great as the originals are, the covers are smokin’ - Community
No offence here but what are the chances that a fledgling like myself would ever be noticed by oh say the likes of Darren Rowse (hey I like the guy and have opted in for the membership). Those lower down the food chain still have the luxury of being able to mingle with us babes in swaddling clothes and actually helping us – they reciprocate with visits to our sites and leave valuable comments, they private message us with helpful suggestions, they give of their time in a way that the A Listers cannot if for no other reason than that logistics just get in the way. - Potential Alliances
Just like the A Listers, this new lot is active and aggressive – they have products in the pipeline, we mere PR oners do too. Can we ride on their coattails? You betcha! Can we form strong strategic alliances? Ditto. Can we eventually look to joint venture partnerships? You bet your sweet bippy we can!
I don’t know why the current upwardly mobile bloggers blogging about blogging got into that saturated niche. My guess is that they felt it isn’t so saturated after all, that they had something of value to say. Maybe they’re just an ornery lot who look at the face of impossibility, stare it down and grapple it to the ground. I dunno know but I thank them.
I do know why I got this market. Actually I was visiting Caroline Middlebrook one day and noticed that she was just blogging about her experience in blogging, talking about her success and failures and things to fix and so on. I thought that was rather brave of her – moreover I liked her online voice, felt the sincerity and thought, hey, I can do that too. Yup! I quickly appropriated the idea and wrote and told her so.
By blogging about blogging, or at least my trials and tribulations and ultimate small granules of success I have learned things I probably never would have otherwise. You see, I had been trying to get into the internet marketing arena for some time (well at least two years prior) and took course upon course. In retrospect some of those courses were damn good, but honestly, I wasn’t fully up to them. Almost without exception the early chapters were easy (they seemed to get easier with each course) but within a short period of time the eyes would glaze over and the brain would go on strike.
I thought about that and about Caroline and came to the conclusion that blogging would be the best way to put into practice that which I know – and I felt I knew plenty after all the credit card statements supported that feeling. So I began my blog about blogging.
By applying things I knew I found holes. Moreover, now that I was writing something, I had to do some checking to make sure that what I was saying was indeed so. My atrophied internet marketing muscles began to gather strength. I have laid a foundation, one that I can now build on. I have launched other “niche” blogs which blush, yes, do bring in some shekels, but it is this blog that I look to as my flagship. It is this blog that makes the others possible.
From this blog I learn. It is my practicum. Along the way I hope that my experiences are relevant to bloggers newer than I, that my content is helpful to them. Because of my newbie status I still speak in a language that is devoid of blogspeak although I have caught myself drifting that way occasionally. I am still at that place of my blog career that fledglings can look at me and say “I have a chance.” And that is all I want. It is a right of passage – maybe we will never sit side by side with the Darrens and Yaros and John’s, but we’ll have learned a hell of a lot by trying.
Nathan, forever your admirer …………..
Valentina

#1 by Nathan Hangen on February 22, 2010 - 18:27
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Valentina,
Wow, where do I start!
First of all, love the post. Great passion and fire, I respect and admire that.
You mentioned a few bloggers that I know of and have talked with (Glenn, Caroline, and Dave). All of them are really cool people. Although Caroline doesn’t really blog about blogging so much anymore due to her software project, I did learn a lot from her a year or so ago.
All of them are great, and you’re right, it is nice and refreshing to read different points of view.
My point really, is that blogging about blogging is small change. It’s too easy, and unless you grew up thinking that you’d be happy blogging about blogging, then why not pursue your true passion?
Glen actually does a whole lot more than blog…his income comes from many places (he’s a great developer).
Caroline eventually got tired of blogging for cash and developed a software product. Dave hangs out in my members area and we talk a lot about this stuff, but he cut his teeth in the brick and mortar world.
What I’m trying to say is that we’re all born to do something, and as much as we need Darren Rowse’s and Glen Alsopp’s…not everyone should be one.
That being said, the post was intended to ruffle a few feathers, and I’m glad you both read it and found some value in it. I also appreciate what you said about me.
I just worry that people are becoming too attached to blogging and neglecting the business aspect of having a product and using blogging as a tool to sell it.
I’m simply asking people to reach for the stars and do what they’re born to do. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks as always
Nathan
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#2 by Carlos Velez on February 22, 2010 - 19:53
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I have learned from you already in the very short time I’ve followed your blog. I also look forward to the time that I need you to call me out for silly behavior…because the dishes incident just wasn’t enough.
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#3 by Carlos Velez on February 22, 2010 - 19:54
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I am adding one more comment because I always forget to add ny Twitter name to the entry. Got it this time!
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#4 by Valentina on February 22, 2010 - 23:23
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Nathan!
I am so honored that you visited here – welcome!
Thank you for your complete and thoughtful comment. Like yourself, I also had my tongue firmly planted in cheek. I know what you are saying on the other hand every coin is double sided and I just wanted to play devil’s advocate
Perhaps the world does not need another Darren, did it need another Julia? It’s a big universe out there, lots of stars, not all visible and then even more. Some people cannot begin the journey without first trying the obvious. Yes, of course you make sense!
I’ll let you know when I discover the next star that I want to hitch my wagon to … in the meantime gonna keep on cutting my teeth here
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#5 by Valentina on February 22, 2010 - 23:25
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Hey Carlos!
Thanks for stopping by – you are always welcome here. There are no silly behaviors … but I’ll certainly keep an eye out for dishes and socks and other such things :-
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#6 by Nathan Hangen on February 23, 2010 - 08:56
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You are right. We all start somewhere…and I think just starting, regardless of where you start, is the most important step. From there, follow your dreams and live the life
Enjoy your blog, I’ll be sure to hang out!
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#7 by Valentina on February 23, 2010 - 23:25
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Hi Nathan … hey that’s cool!
The door is always open here for you .:-) ……………. best……….valentina
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#8 by Evolution Of Wealth on February 28, 2010 - 13:08
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I love the passion and I think you both make great points. You need to start somewhere but direction is just as important. Follow your passions and shoot for the stars…I love it.
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#9 by Valentina on February 28, 2010 - 22:07
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Welcome Evolution …
Thank you for the visit. I agree – start with an end/destination in mind.
Do visit often … the door is always open here at Blog Incomeùùùù1
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#10 by Dave Doolin on March 1, 2010 - 02:05
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My goodness.
I step away a few days, all hell breaks loose!
But you really nailed what I’m doing Valentina. I’m finding the people at my level or just slightly ahead that I can connect with, and the people just slightly behind that I can help effectively. I look for motivation and determination as well as passion.
Then we all grow together. As a cohort.
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#11 by Valentina on March 1, 2010 - 07:47
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Must have been a hell breaking week – my museum vintage laptop packed it in! Picked up new one all loaded etc – so at least operative.
Cohorts sounds good!
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#12 by Sire on March 8, 2010 - 02:49
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The thing with blogging is that although many subjects have been covered by the A Listers, it doesn’t mean that it has been done in such a way that it can be understood by everybody. Another bloggers take on any given subject can be written in such a way that it can be better understood by their readers and I think this is a good thing.
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#13 by Valentina on March 8, 2010 - 13:42
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Hi Sire,
Good to see you.
Yes, that is so true. When you apply that to any topic, whether it is about blogging on blogging or yet another recipe book, there is always a market to a fresh approach.
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